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Session 11209 Minutes December 15, 1975 Page 8 The following addressed the Council, and generally expressed opposition to implementation of the recommendations of the consultant. Mr. James B. Stevens, 328 Droste Road, St. Charles. Ir. Stevens said he is an Emergency Medical Technician instructor at Forest Park Community College. Iie discussed details of an incident which occurred this evening involving a resident on Eastover who suffered a fatal heart attack. Mr. Stevens was of the opinion that if the ambulance had come from a closer location, the re- sponse time would have been faster by a few minutes and possibly could have made a difference. lie stressed the importance of proper training level for ambulance drivers (as compared to First Aid Training alone): he felt that three men are required on ambulances -- proper training and number of men can mean the difference between life and death; lie pointed out the need for ambulances at two main based locations in the City to insure the fastest possible response time. Mr. Joseph A. Walsh, a member of the University City Fire Department, and president of Local #1918, called attention to contradictory comments and recommendations between the report prepared by Mr. A. J. Sella, fire pro- tection consultant, in 1963 and the 1975 report, now under discussion. (111r. Sella had primary responsibility for the field work in the 1975 report, for organizing survey materials and for drafting the report.) Mr. Walsh pointed out that there has been a great increase in the number of fire and ambulance calls since 1963 in this city. Mayor Kaufman suggested that Mr. Walsh may have other comments he would like to detail and it would be appreciated if he would place them in writing so the Council may have an opportunity to evaluate his comments. Mr. Joseph Mcllahon, 6302 Berhold, president, International Firefighters Lss°n. Mr. McTlahon took exception to the report, pointing out that there are in- consistencies in comparison to the 1963 report which was made when Mr. Sella worked for the National Board of Underwriters. I1r. T11cliahon felt that any proposal to close down Engine House No. 2 would be a serious mistake and a disservice to the residents of University City. lie was of the opinion that Mr. Sella did not take into consideration the makeup or influx of the popula- tion of University City. He observed that in 1963 11r. Sella had recommended putting another Book and Ladder company in service with no company running less than five men -- today, Mr. Sella contradicts those suggestions. Mr. McMahon stated that the 1975 report as submitted benefits the consulting firm that Mr. Sella works for. Mr. McMahon urged that the Council not close En- gine House No. 2, and open an additional station, No. 4. Councilman hleissenburger requested the City Manager to submit a list of the equipment in 1963 and as of 1975. Mr. Harold Gregor, 9450 Calwood, St. John, Missouri. Mr. Gregory said he has somewhat of an extensive background in fire protection and consequently was asked by the Firefighters Union to make afew points tonight with regard to the Report. He discussed some of the techniques used to bring fire sup- pression systems under control and how they are handled, and he explained the need for a sufficient number of men in fighting fires. 11r. Douglas C. Nord, 738d West Canterbury, a member of the University City Fire Department. Mr. Nord stated that the Union needs more time to study the Report as it could not possibly be evaluated properly in the short time that they have had it. He pointed out that the Report indicates there will be no