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Session 1223, N/nutes <br />June 25, 1979 <br /> <br />Page 13 <br /> <br />of base pay; for every year thereafter, 3~/ can be earned up to 55% of base pay at <br />age 55. <br /> <br />Councilman Metcalfe spoke in favor of setting the tax rate for the pension fund at <br />29¢ for the following reasons. She said the pension plan should not be changed in <br />such a way that retirement is not tied to age at all--there should be some combina- <br />tion of service and age if the purpose of early retirement is to allow people to <br />leave the service at a point where the strees and strain is too much for this type <br />of work. She said the issue is extremely complex and needs a great deal of study, <br />and the Council has really not had enough time for this. Also, any change which is <br />made is virtually irreversible, unlike other budget items which can be changed from <br />year to year. She feels the issue should be studied for several months, and also <br />feels that the Council should follow the provisions for public disclosure and input <br />that are in H.B. 130. Councilman Metcalfe seconded Councilman Adam's motion. <br /> <br />Councilman Sabol spoke in favor of the 32¢ rate. He says he does not feel that <br />reaching the 40¢ rate one year earlier than predicted makes a great deal of difference, <br />and feels Council should rely on the report from the actuary. <br /> <br />Councilman Adams said he agrees that early retirement should be a part of the pen- <br />sion plan, but that the entire plan is being approached in piecemeal fashion, and <br />needed a great deal more time devoted to it. He also said that some of the provi- <br />sions in H.B. 130 will not be followed if Council decides on the 32¢ rate now. <br /> <br />Councilman Lieberman spoke in favor of using the 32¢ rate. He said he felt that <br />when the citizens of University City voted to authorize a tax rate of up to 40¢ for <br />the pension plan, they did not necessarily see it only as maintaining the plan as it <br />is presently constituted, but that it could be used to improve the plan, also. Mr. <br />Lieberman said that he also thought that Amendment #4 was supported so overwhelming- <br />ly because it did not cost any money. Mr. Lieberman said that H.B. 130 says that <br />when a substantial change in benefits is being made, all that has to be done is to <br />make the statement of cost available to the public for at least 45 days before the <br />legislative body can take final action to adopt the substantial proposed change in <br />benefits. He said Bill Nos. 7342 through 7349 and Bill Nos. 7362 through 7368, <br />which are tax bills, do not propose any substantial change in benefits, but Bill Nos. <br />7360 through 7362, which are pension bills, do, so Council could adopt the tax bills <br />now, and adopt the pension bills 45 days later, in order to comply with H.B. 130. <br /> <br />Councilman Metcalfe disagreed with Councilman Lieberman and said she felt the public <br />was very concerned about runaway pension costs, and that they wanted full disclosure <br />and lots of debate, and a full awareness of the ramifications of any change in the <br />pension plan. <br /> <br />Councilman Glickert said that while there are persuasive arguments on both sides, <br />she feels since Council has only had the proposal since the previous Friday, more <br />time is needed to study it, and that Council shuuld set the rate at 29¢ until such <br />time as it feels a change should be made. Mayor Mooney concurred, emphasizing es- <br />pecially the brief time Council has had the proposal, and the fact that he feels the <br />citizens do not want the Council to make any changes hastily. <br /> <br />Upon roll call, the following vote was recorded: AYES: Councilmen Adams, Matcalfe, <br />Glickert and Mayor Mooney. NAYS: Councilmen Lieberman, Kelley and Sabol. The mo- <br />tion carried by a vote of four to three. The rate was set at 29¢. <br /> <br /> <br />