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Sessio~ 710, Minutes August 20, 1962 Page 13 upon them. Hayor Kaufman said the Council will have a meetin~ bafore August 3let and during the interim the administrative forces can com~unt.=ta vith the co~sulting firm and ascertain whether this was an oversight or wheehar they are prepared to make the same recommendation with respect to the American Insurance Company, whereupon it was pointed out to the Hayor that no regular meeting of the Council is scheduled until September - to con- sider this matter on August 27th would require a special meeting of the Council. The Hayor said he is not interested then in calling a special meeting. At this juncture, Hr. A. Vint, branch manager of the St. Louis office of Employers Mutual Liability Insurance Co. of Wisconsin, asked to be recos= nized, which request was granted. Hr. Vint said he wonders whether the Council has any questions which he might answer, whereupon Councilman Bards said he would like to repeat that what he has said has not been a reflection of any personal knowledge that he has of Employers Mutual -= it is only by virtue of the fact that the Insurance Audit and Inspection Company made a comment about the loss settlement practices of the one fir~ and made no comaant one way or another about the Employers Hutual loss settlement practices. Mr. Vint spoke of the fine reputation of his firm and stated they ~rrote the first Worhnen's Compensation policy ever written in the United States=- in 1911. He mentioned a number of risks in this area which his company insures. He said he agrees with City Hanager Henry that a good claims policy results in people getting what they have coming to them promptly, but it also means that the Workmen's Compensation Insurance should be paid to those that have it coming and not to those who do not have it coming. Hr. Vint said they would consult on any serious claim with the City Hans- get or any other person that was designated before they paid, to see that it was properly paid. Hayor K~ufman said that Mr. Vint has made a very able presentation, but he does not believe it answers the issue raised by Councilman Baris which is that in the presentation by the Insurance Audit and Inspection Company there is a statement to the effect that American Insurance Company, like Employers Hutual, is capably administered and in enviable financial con= dition - it has excellent reputation for engineering service and loss settlement practices, but that particular point wasn't covered in this report and that is precisely the reason why the City employed the company and agreed to pay them $750 to get certain information. Mr. Vint said he understands the Council~s position and he suggested that a long distance telephone call be placed to the Insurance Audit and Inspection Company (at Hr. Vint's expense). Mr. Vint answered numerous questions propounded by members of the Council. Councilman Bards said he is concerned about getting the employees involved with any company who would give them a difficult time in settlin~ a just and legitimate claim and he added that he is not suggesting that any company should give charity to the City's employees or to any claimant, but in those instances where the claim is legitimate he feels the City should make certain that the company it gives a policy to is one which will not