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Session 587, Minutes January 18, 1960 Page 8 Section 74 of the Charter of University City, and he said this is a point on which he would like a legal opinion. Councilman Stake said he wants it made very definite whether this Council has the authority to submit an ordinance as provided in Section 74 of the Charter. Councilman Soule ex- pressed the view, without taking any particular stand on this Bill at this time, that if this provision in the Charter does state, and is meant to be~ that a matter may be submitted to the electorate for its vote, then certainly that is what the people who franed the Charter had intended. Mayor Kaufman pointed out that this involves an interpretation. Mr. Drexel Chaney, operator of a tavern in University City, upon being recog- nized, spoke against Bill No. 5788. Mr. Eugene Johnson, 225 Westgate, addressed the Council and spoke in behalf of Bill No. 5788. Mr. A. G. Simpson, 7535 Drexel, asked to be recognized, which request was granted. Mr. Simpson said he does not know yet which way he thinks specific- ally about this issue. Mr. Kenneth Fisher, 831 Longacre, upon being recognized~ stated that he is a medical student, and he spoke in support of Bill No. 5788. Mr. Schmidt, 15 Princeton Place, was the next speaker. He stated that it ap- pears to him from examination of Bill No. 5788 that it is based on the assump- tion that there is in existence some discriminatory legislation. He said he fails to know of any such legislation and therefore sees no need for this type of ordinance. Mrs. Martha Smith, 1036 East Park, upon being recognized, raised questions concerning University City swimming pools which were answered by Councilman Baris. Councilman Lahrmann suggested that it would be well for the adminis- trative forces to review the rules and regulations concerning the City's swimming pools, and he said as he remembers, the City has the right to re- strict use of the pools to residents of the City. l~ayor Kaufman requested that this matter be checked. Mrs. David Goldring, 7540 Cornell, speaking for herself and her family, sup- ported Bill No. 5788. Reverend Edgar Mundinger, Pastor of the Bethel Lutheran Church, upon being recognized, stated that he would like to speak on his own behalf.. Reverend Mundinger urged the adoption of Bill NO. 5788. Mr. Charles L. Klotzer, 884 Berick, asked to be recognized, which request was granted. In response to question raised by Mr. Klotzer, Mayor Kaufman ex- plained the practice of the Council with reference to hearing all persons who desire to be heard for the first time before giving any person an opportunity to be heard for the second time; however, Mayor Kaufman said, all persons desiring to speak a second time will have a chance to do so. Mr. Klotzer spoke in behalf of Bill NO. 5788. Mr. Fred Epstein, 225 N. Meramec, Clayton, upon being recognized, stated that the Council must not only consider the consequences of passing such a law as is proposed, but must also consider what the consequences of not passing the