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Budget Study Session May 18, 2005 programs that have been thought up and a projection for how they are going to do in the future. She knows that a lot of them have to have a lot more advertising. She is interested in which ones are attracting people now, what the plans are in PR to bring more people in. I know when I tell people about all the extra programs they don’t know about them. That doesn’t mean that we haven’t said in our recreation booklets that they exist. She knows that it is in there someplace, but she hasn’t taken the time to find it. She wondered if it would be possible to devote a study session to this subject so that we can inform our constituents properly. Mr. Ollendorff said he could give the list to her and she said, “But I would like to really hear from the department what they are actually doing, where they are advertising and who is taking part in the programs.” Mr. Ollendorff said he would report to her and asked if she wanted it to be verbal or in writing? Mr. Ollendorff said he would prefer writing and Ms. Brot commented that she preferred verbal, so that questions could be asked, in a study session. Mr. Ollendorff suggested starting with an initial report and asked if it should be written or verbal and Ms. Brot responded that she would have an initial report in writing, but she prefers to have it verbally so that she may ask questions. Mr. Ollendorff promised the written report and said that when she received it she could tell him what the next step should be. Ms. Welsch asked why, the program indicator numbers haven’t changed since we are doing more programs, which many she has heard have been very successful. Mr. Ollendorff responded that he did not believe the numbers were well thought out. Ms. Welsch asked about discussion on the recreation center and the scholarship fund built into the budget and asked where it is shown. Ms. Colquitt said Nancy MacCartney was supposed to provide additional information on this topic, and Ms. Welsch added that it was supposed to be a “pretty big budget.” Ms. Brungardt asked about page C-67, 724.07, which shows a $10,000 increase and asked why this is so. Mr. Ollendorff said yes, it is because of additional employees. He added that on all of the budgets what is budgeted is a nine or ten per cent increase, but the actual increase is probably only five per cent. These figures are probably a little on the high side. Ms. Brot asked if these figures were for “self-insurance” and was told no, it is for insurance provided for employees. Ms. Brot wanted to know where the self- insurance was shown and was directed to 724.02, liability insurance, and said that is what the self-insurance is for. Ms. Brot said it sounded like something else, and that she had a different understanding of what self-insurance was. Then she explained her understanding and Mayor Adams explained “we don’t self-insure in medical.” Mr. Ollendorff said for hospital and medical insurance, there is a contract for insurance, and the City pays eighty-five per cent for an individual employee, and the employee pays fifteen per cent; for family coverage the costs are much more expensive, and the employee pays seventy-five per cent and the employee pays twenty-five per cent. Ms. Colquitt asked about 729.10 and if that covered the new programs at the recreation center. Mr. Ollendorff said that he would need to get back on that question. Page 9