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2. For the lanes that turn left and right onto Big Bend to be delineated with their respective arrow. 3. For the third lane on south bound Big Bend that turns left onto Forest Park Pwy begin south of the Big Bend/Pershing intersection. 4. For the pavement in Forest Park Parkway to be marked delineating the east and westbound lanes turning northbound onto Big Bend with broken white lines. Mrs. Bondareff asked if there have been any accidents at the Big Bend/Forest Park Intersection and Sgt. King responded that there are accidents in all major intersections, but that specific intersection has gotten a lot better since the County readjusted the timing of the traffic lights. He reported that not many accidents had been reported at the Big Bend/Pershing intersection. He recognized that it is very difficult to turn left from Pershing onto Big Bend southbound. He explained that if a car traveling east on Pershing starts turning left or right and got hit by a car driving on Big Bend; it would be the Pershing driver's fault since Big Bend drivers have the right of way. This is an intersection controlled by a stop sign on Pershing at Big Bend. Commissioner Hyman asked Sgt. King his opinion for suggestion #1, and Sgt. King responded that it would be the most difficult traffic law to enforce. He added that one of the problems is that it is a "1" intersection with a major county roadway and a small side street that leads to a private parking lot. Commissioner Patterson expressed that the new Williams Pharmacy entrance/exit may mitigate the concern. Mr. Poelker requested more information about "Blocking an intersection" traffic law. Commissioner Hyman commented that he finds it really difficult for this request to go through to St. Louis County since their main focus right now is the closure of 1-64/40 and to prevent traffic problems affecting any other road on the secondary road network. Big Bend Blvd and Forest Park Pwy are under St.Louis County's Jurisdiction. Mr. Poelker asked the Commission if they are willing to forward any of his recommendations to the County for their review/approval. Commissioner Patterson asked the commission to vote for each suggestion independently, and give consideration to sending them to St.Louis County. The commissioners voted as follows: For Suggestion #1 - Commissioner Patterson requested for the traffic law for "Blocking Intersections" legal requirements and feasibility be provided to the commissioners and for this item to be tabled until the next meeting. For Suggestion #2 - Commissioner Bondareff stated that the request to delineate lanes turning left and right eastbound requires an additional lane and there is not enough room for three lanes traveling on Pershing since parking is allowed on both sides of the street. Mr. Poelker explained that he is only requesting arrows be painted on the road, and suggested that street width can be measured to determine if the street is wide enough to delineate two lanes and arrows. Commissioners voted for the City to determine if the street is wide enough for Pershing to be delineated with left and right turn arrows. Suggestion #3. Traffic Commission voted unanimously to deny the submittal of this request to St. Louis County. Commissioner Bondareff stated that there are a lot of cars trying to turn left onto Forest Park Parkway from Big Bend, and shortening the third lane will only generate more congestion on Big Bend. Commissioner Patterson stated that he does not think this measure will alleviate the problem and that is why he voted against it. Minutes - February 13, 2008 V:IWPSIIENGINEERING DIVISIONIPublic Works- Traffic Commissionlminutesl20081Minutes 2-13-08.doc Page 2