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Session 710, Minutes August 20, 1962 Page 18 for a motorist to become confused in this intersection) is not Just as much of a hazard as one who doesntt stop at a11. He said he is in favor of the flashing signals, but does not think that ends the problem. Councilman Tandler, addressing himself to the City Manager, said that presently the westbound stop on Olive is s~t at the end of the island - traffic is expected to stop at that point - and h, ,~k=a ~= Manager Henry whether he feels something might be achieved by indicating a. -h~, point that the traffic will stop at the white line and this white line might be provided where a proposed walk is indicated so that all traffic is directed to stop at that point and, of course, the flashing signal would call additional attention to that white line. City Manager Henry said as long as traffic is crossing from Westgate there is question as to whether they shouldn't be pulled back a little and upon question by City Hanager Henry, Councilman Tandler said he is talking about possibly without ex- tension of the triangle. City Manager Henry said that traffic traveling north on Westgate, going 'into the Sutter cutoff there would cut right into traffic stopped if the line were advanced too far westwardly. Councilman Tandler asked whether it would be better if the cut-off were made one-way and the City Hanager said this is a possibility - one-way southbound. Discussion continued. Councilman Tandler said he is of the opinion it would be well to eliminate right turn movements into this crosswalk, at least at FLaple and heading for the cut-off because there is a serious problem there. In reply to inquiry by Mayor Kaufinan, the CityManager said extensive traffic counts have been made. Councilman Epstein asked whether the City Manager would recommend two stops on the Olive Street westbound traffic - one at the end of the island and one at the crosswalk. The City Manager said this is done during school hours, but it is not a very satisfactory situation to stop cars again at what amounts to the middle of the intersection. RECESS: At this Juncture, 9:59 P.M. Mayor Kaufman announced a recess and at 10:16 P.Mo the Council reconvened. (~est~at~-Olive Intersection, continued): Mayor Kaufman invited further discussion of the Olive-Westgate-Sutter- Maple matter. Councilman Tandler said in his opinion the best way to move forward, and he moved accordingly, is to request the City Manager to obtain bids for two signals to be supported on a single span between the two existing poles - and he said he has pointed out to the City Manager the location of the poles and the location of the signals -- one si§nal to face east and westbound Olive Street traffic and northbound Westgate traffic - the other signal to point east on Maple and northeast along the cut-off and in addition to that, he would like to request that a bill be prepared which would establish the westbound Stop sign - Boule- vard Stop - on Olive Boulevard in a new location some 40 or 50 feet west and that a temporary island extension be built up in order to help locate the si§nal. He said at this. time he is requesting the preparation of this bill as well as whatever is necessary to establish the turning movements indicated under the notes I and 2 on this same drawing. He said it is his intention that once this bill is prepared and in the hands of the Council